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29/06/2019 4:32 pm  

Ok, here's something I don't quite get ...

Many stereo systems are now using sub-woofers along with their regular speakers.  But why hasn't anyone keyed in on the idea to make sub-woofers that you can use as stands for your main speakers?

For example... why isn't there a sub-woofer that could replace my drawer unit in the picture below?

SubStand

For that matter, why  not go fully modular... sub, mid-bass, midrange, tweeter all as separate components that can be stacked/locked together to make various configurations?

If there's a technical limitation, I'm not seeing it....

 


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29/06/2019 5:37 pm  

I think most just build them into the speaker, like Def Tech.  But you could be on to something witht he subwoofer being a modular style.  The only issue, would be making sure there is no rattle when hooking them together.  But a little rubber should fix that.  


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29/06/2019 6:41 pm  
Posted by: 123Toid

I think most just build them into the speaker, like Def Tech.  But you could be on to something witht he subwoofer being a modular style.  The only issue, would be making sure there is no rattle when hooking them together.  But a little rubber should fix that.  

You can't really see it in the photo, but the speaker is stitting on 4 Sorbothane feet. 

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00X6T2DCU

This stuff is magical. It's like a gel that lets the speaker move a little bit (about 1/4") with respect to what it's sitting on. Before I went this way I had several complaints about the bass from my system getting into the building structure... once I added the pads, nothing. From the apartment below, which was the biggest problem, you wouldn't even know I had the system turned on. But best of all, no noticeable effect inside my listening area. 

So vibration issues, both sub to floor and sub to speaker, are easily solved in this case.

The real problem I see is that most subs sit very low to the floor so you still end up using stands to mount your mains, which takes up twice as much floor space.  This is one of the reasons I don't run subs on my system. If the sub was designed to be parked under the main speakers you save the extra floor space which would be a big help in smaller rooms and apartments.


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30/06/2019 12:44 pm  

I guess it depends on how you design your subwoofer.  If you designed a narrow tall subwoofer, the speakers would sit on top and should be approximate height.  But this might not be ideal for some.


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30/06/2019 1:19 pm  
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I guess it depends on how you design your subwoofer.  If you designed a narrow tall subwoofer, the speakers would sit on top and should be approximate height.  But this might not be ideal for some.

Nothing is ideal for everyone...

Maybe it's just me but I seriously don't get why people aren't designing speakers that integrate easily with regular furniture, like the drawer units at either end of my equipment stand. Instead they are designing speakers that look more and more conspicuously like speakers and stick out like a sore thumb in most room situations. They complain about low Wife Acceptance Factors... but keep right on making ugly speakers that take over the entire room... I just don't get it.

Seriously... 

TowerSpeaker

What room can that possibly look good in?

Now if you go back to the 1980s and look at the JBL L-100s or the Klipsch Heresey speakers... they were at least trying to make them usable in a normal living room, and they managed some astonishingly good sound.

KlipschHeresy

 

 


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07/07/2019 3:45 pm  

There's no need to think about it as the pro industry has had this setup for years. There are many DJ and smaller stage kits where there is a pole mount in the bass bin that then holds the mid/tweeter unit. Could be easily adapted and made really nice with a, say, 2x2 post running up the back that you could use to hold the "other" boxes. Always room for innovation. Just remember who you heard it from!  😉

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07/07/2019 4:16 pm  
Posted by: TVOR-Ceasar

There's no need to think about it as the pro industry has had this setup for years. There are many DJ and smaller stage kits where there is a pole mount in the bass bin that then holds the mid/tweeter unit. Could be easily adapted and made really nice with a, say, 2x2 post running up the back that you could use to hold the "other" boxes. Always room for innovation. Just remember who you heard it from!  😉

It might be a good project for you and Nick to work on together.  

One of my friends took his sub-woofers and put them at the ends of his stand, kinda like my drawer units and got a set of speaker stands, cut them to size and put them on top of the sub... It looks, well, different... but with a bit of engineering and style it might turn into "a thing" you guys could make some money from.  

You might even consider making stands, with larger bottom and top plates, maybe even some CD or Vinyl storage... to go on top of existing subs and selling them.

For me it was just an idea... I don't have a wood shop to make it happen.


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