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    123toid
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    All right guys here’s some teaser pics of the flat back that I built for the Cinema 10. I have some other pictures of them completed, I just don’t have them on hand. I’ll try to update this later.

    Get the Plans: https://toidsdiyaudio.com/product/cinema-10-speaker-plans/




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  • Cinema 10 Build Log

    Adrian updated 2 months, 2 weeks ago 11 Members · 45 Replies
  • 123toid

    Administrator
    February 6, 2022 at 7:18 pm

    That actually looks pretty incredible. Especially if it truly models that well down to 64 Hz. You can tell they saved some money with the stamped steel frame, but that wouldn’t be an issue with something like this. The main concern I would have is the cone breakup at 3Khz. Just making sure you can tame that well enough for a two way. It may end up being better for a three-way. That is jsut a guess without really diving any deeper or seeing distortion graphs.


    Cinema 10 Build Log

  • blehaa

    Member
    February 7, 2022 at 10:22 am

    Please don’t take this the wrong way, I know the DIY youtube life is crazy busy, but in regards to DXF files; is this something you would need help with. I have experience in this area, and willing to help out?

  • remy-alexander

    Member
    February 27, 2022 at 11:10 am

    I use your Cinema 6 as phantom center also. absolutely nuts how natural it sounds. Adding anchored center makes it sound blah..

  • remy-alexander

    Member
    March 7, 2022 at 10:45 am

    Just ordered CD and Woofer on Amazon and XO parts on PE- Doing LCR as Cinema 10 as some apps have garbage dialogue another wise phantom center for the win. 2 Cinema 6s for surrounds. HOw have they handled being mains with such small xmax? (2mm)

  • 123toid

    Administrator
    March 7, 2022 at 11:44 am

    They work fine as mains. Just keep in mind they’re designed to be used with a subwoofer. These aren’t going to produce earth-shattering bass. Instead, these are going to be clear while allowing your subwoofer to do the job it was designed to do. Your surround sound receiver should cross them over between 80 and 120 HZ depending on your room.


  • Xshawnx300

    Member
    March 19, 2022 at 5:16 pm

    I’ve been wanting to build this for a while since I’ve bought the plans but the tweeter has been out of stock. Do you think the jbl tweeter would match up? What would the crossover look like?

  • 123toid

    Administrator
    March 20, 2022 at 2:09 am

    @Xshawnx300 No I don’t think it would match up. However, once I finish my latest build, I could let my B&C compression drivers, I have in my Cinema 6 go.


  • DKL

    Member
    March 22, 2022 at 10:24 am

    My first post! I’ve been watching your content on youtube, and I am really impressed. You have a lot of interesting projects, but I think this would be a good starting point for me. I did notice that the tweeter you used is backordered on PE. Haven’t checked to see if it’s available elsewhere, but is there an alternative you’d recommend if these are not available right now?

  • 123toid

    Administrator
    March 22, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    I honestly have never even thought about using a different tweeter. It just is a perfect compliment for those speakers. It stinks they are on backorder. IT seems there are way too many that are on backorder.


  • JCarp

    Member
    March 24, 2022 at 6:53 pm

    I really am enjoying watching these builds. In a 14x17x8 ft room would you prefer 3 cinema 6 speakers, or 3 cinema 10 speakers for an lcr? The TV is on the 14ft wall. 99% movies and TV. The kids sit farthest out at about 25-30° from center.

    • 123toid

      Administrator
      March 25, 2022 at 1:11 am

      @JCarp I don’t’ think you will go wrong with either. I think I would prefer the cinema 10 for that room, due to the better off-axis response. But that is more of a judgement call.


    • JCarp

      Member
      March 25, 2022 at 6:22 am

      That was kinda my thought. I tend to over think these things lol. My main goal is that this will be my wife’s introduction to home theater. If this goes well I have a similar sized room in the basement I’d like to go all out on. Is there a huge difference in the clarity between the two speakers, or are they pretty close? I think my biggest hurdle will be getting the right amount of bass where it hits low frequencies, but doesn’t overpower the room, and most importantly my wife’s ears. Thanks again for your help.

  • Xshawnx300

    Member
    April 6, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    Toid if size wasn’t an issue, would you have an LCR of cinema 10’s or soundstage 15’s?

    • 123toid

      Administrator
      April 6, 2022 at 10:59 pm
    • JCarp

      Member
      April 8, 2022 at 2:45 pm

      Now you have me thinking about these instead of the cinema 10s 😆 My wife recently agreed to let me just turn a room in our basement into a dedicated home theater instead of the living room. So it’s 11x19x6.75 in size. Now I gotta think about these lol. They would probably make nice surrounds too.

  • Adrian

    Member
    April 12, 2022 at 5:59 am

    @123toid Thank you for your channel and ideas. I’ve just purchased the cinema 10 and soundstage 15. To build a L&R of SS15 and Use the C10 for centre and rear surrounds.

    I probably should have asked this before I bought them but is that a good combo?

    I am thinking of mounting the C10’s in wall too, just to get it past the wife as we don’t have a dedicated cinema room but this will be in the family television room, do you see any problems with that?

    Thanks again.

    PS I’m also looking at one of your subs and the Dinas for some powered monitors for my guitar.

    • 123toid

      Administrator
      April 12, 2022 at 1:24 pm

      @ adrian, that is a great combo. There won’t be a bad seat in the house. If you wanted to do a third SOundstage 15 for a center, that would also be fine. I typically like my front three to be the same. However, even in my theater room I am building, that isn’t currently the case.


    • Adrian

      Member
      April 12, 2022 at 7:01 pm

      @123toid Thanks, I hope all the seats will be good ones too! 🙂

      I was thinking that would be good but the SS15 is a fair bit bigger than the C10 and I had to compromise for space also it would have been a battle get that passed my wife.

      I just saw your Eminence Atmos roofs and might see if I can do that too.

  • remy-alexander

    Member
    April 12, 2022 at 11:49 am
    • 123toid

      Administrator
      April 12, 2022 at 1:25 pm

      nice! I like the slot port redesign. Is that oak veneer?


    • remy-alexander

      Member
      April 12, 2022 at 1:43 pm

      Thank you- loving the speakers- I did 3/4′ Red Oak Ply for front baffle 3/4″ MDF for rest. Sort of a paper mache type for paint. I got bad lottery on this lot of ply not as good as ones i used for sealed subs but still turned out well. Using them for LCR- I screwed up and thought I had tube for port, and I didn’t so I had to spend some time modeling port and loving the slim port.

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